How can we show up better in our relationships while simultaneously pursuing entrepreneurship? In today’s Connect Call, I’m diving deep into this conversation with the founder of the Holistic Divorce Institute, Olga Nadal. This is a vulnerable and empowering chat, as Olga shares her advice for navigating both the legal and emotional sides of divorce, as well as her guidance for communication in all kinds of relationships. 

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Navigating a healthy relationship while pursuing a big dream (2:44)

Conscious communication and communication styles (8:01)

Putting friendship first in your partnerships (14:33)

Helping families with divorce (19:00)

The financial fears around divorce (26:58)

Holistic divorce programs (32:05)

Key tip from Olga (36:15)

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Quianna Marie
You can go through it or you can grow through it. These are encouraging words from today’s guests, and I can’t wait to introduce you to another Arizona Angel. Since moving here to this new state, I’ve had the joy of meeting incredible souls that continue to impact my life every day. Through the connection of Felicia Romero. I was introduced to Olga Nadal and I am excited to offer a warm introduction for this new connection for you to Olga specializes in divorce coaching, healing and family planning. Her methodology for holistic divorce combines both legal and emotional approaches to help you navigate this transition with ease and grace.

She’ll help you experience a divorce that empowers you instead of traumatizing you and your children. With this knowledge, experience and practice. Olga has founded her holistic institute that certifies coaches, healers and counselors to help change the paradigm of traumatic divorces and and the circle of shame. Now, I understand that not all of us are currently experiencing a divorce. Or maybe our parents haven’t ended their marriage.

I invited Olga to share this connection call because she’s a powerful resource for learning more about communication and relationships. In today’s episode, we’ll dive deeper into navigating a relationship and entrepreneurship secrets to keeping a friendship with your partner and sharing opportunities for help and guidance. If anyone is feeling alone worried about finances after a divorce, Olga is a traveling Scottsdale mama Pickleball Buster, published author and shares her insights on her own podcast your next best chapter. She makes me laugh at every mastermind and is a beam of light that leaves everyone she needs a little brighter. Ready?

Let’s get all the on the call. Welcome to Quianna Marie Weekly, a podcast for creatives who love to celebrate wins big or small by dancing in the kitchen photographers who are excited to serve their clients and friends who are ready to chase really, really big dreams. You can find all of the resources mentioned in this episode at Kiana murray.com/podcast. Join me as I share weekly motivation, chat about growing pains, finding genuine connections and celebrating your wins through the lens of a photographer at heart. Come join me for a dance party. Ready? Loves though. Hey, hey Olga. Welcome. Welcome. I am so thankful you can be here with us today.

Olga Nadal
Hello, beautiful. So happy to be here!

Quianna Marie
Yes. Well, let’s just dive right in. I know you are a wealth of knowledge. And I just want to get to the juicy questions. Perfect. So with entrepreneurship, and this push for more companies or more entrepreneurs working online, a lot of our personal relationships are now experiencing whole new stresses and a whole different like types of pressures. So I would love your advice for someone that is trying to navigate a healthy relationship with their partner while they are pursuing a big dream.

Navigating Your Partnership While Pursuing A Big Dream

Olga Nadal
I just want to say don’t do it. I’m totally get it. Absolutely do it, especially if that’s in your heart. But I do think that we need to have a conversation around what intrapreneurship actually involves and what the things that you’ll have to put in in order to get the results that you want. Because as we all know, social media sells us on a lot of dreams, that then when you go down that rabbit hole, you may compare yourselves to other people’s success to their achievements and go like, wait a minute, I’m not getting there. I’m just overwhelmed and frustrated.

That’s because they don’t tell you the other side of the equation and is that, to me, entrepreneurship feels very much like parenting. It’s like, it’s a constant journey. That changes every time that you feel that you’ve mastered an age or developmental process for your children. Then they change and suddenly they go like, Oh, they were little babies. Suddenly, they’re toddlers, suddenly they’re teenagers. And with this each stage, you have to learn new skills and new tools. So that’s how I feel with entrepreneurship. Like we feel like oh, I got really good at creating an audience and connecting with them. Great. Now you have to monetize it. Oh, okay, wait, how do I do that?

Oh, now you have to learn on marketing and sales and closing the deal. And so at each stage, you’re just gonna need new skills. So that will be the first thing that I will say is just get very comfortable with constantly learning. When it comes to your partner, as you are growing through these evolutions. Again, depending on what kind of tools you have, you may feel disregulated. You may feel like this is too much and my my partnership is suffering. But if we give ourselves that race and that compassion of knowing like this is just a process is a long term journey and you’re able to communicate that with your partner. I think that that’s one of the biggest issues that we don’t speak enough to our partners because we’re so focused on what we’re trying to burn through our businesses.

That is like, just keep up with the space, but they need to hear from us, especially if your partner is in a nine to five, they’re not doing this whole, okay, I’m my own boss, I have to make my own commitments. It can be pretty, you know, different perspective. So, communication, being aware that you’re going to have to keep on changing what you know, and and giving yourself that grace and compassion, I think that will really help relationships and entrepreneurship.

Quianna Marie
Yes, well, I love that I love how you really broke that down. Because I know even for me, personally, I had been single for a really long time, because I, I felt like I was battling, I felt like I had to choose, I had to pick, I was either going to be on one road where I was a successful business career driven, right, like career driven woman. And then on the other side, which would be a completely different road, I would have to commit to finding a relationship, starting a family and kind of like a feeling like I had to choose. And so I love how you mentioned just through communication, through understanding, you actually can grow with someone.

I think that is a really, really great reminder that it’s actually possible because I, I literally because you know, me and my big, big, big old, I would date someone and I would share these ideas or share these really big lofty goals. And they would do one or two things, they would either look at me like I was crazy. Or they would be like, Okay, well good luck with that. Or they may have been turned off by it because they weren’t at like they weren’t matching that, right. Like they didn’t have those, those same aspirations or they felt like they couldn’t keep up. So I just kept spinning my wheels. So I love that you mentioned the core of all of this is simply communication.

Olga Nadal
Yeah. And I appreciate you sharing that because it is a truth that we don’t usually talk about that sort of subconscious or unconscious decision making that we make around. Okay, I may have to choose when the reality is no, you don’t. And even when you take it to the next level that is like, okay, now I have my partner, I have my business, everything is working on our gonna add children to the equation, because that’s the next level is working, then you add the children.

Again, that adds another layer of complications. But again, as long as you keep on communicating, as long as you keep on saying, Hey, are we still on the same mission and values. And again, it can happen with one person working nine to five, and one person working online. They’re not incompatible, not by its own nature, it’s just when we perceive that they we won’t be able to mix them together, and we won’t communicate. That’s when the issues really pop up.

Quianna Marie
Amazing. Well, one thing that I look up to you for for many, many things, is your expertise, on relationships, on friendships, and we say communication a lot. But I actually would love to kind of pick your brain a little bit on different ways. Because oftentimes we hear communication and we just think, oh, talking like, Are you sharing your feelings? Are you talking to a person, but there are so many other ways that we can communicate and share our feelings. And so I just I would love for you to kind of unpack communication. And maybe even if we want to start with something that we wish we would have noted a much younger age.

Conscious Communication and Communication Styles

Olga Nadal
Oh, my goodness, yeah, no, that’s my favorite subject. I wish that they taught a class called communication amongst humans in school. Because it’s the basic of everything. I mean, when you think about it, we are communal creatures, and we need to live in tribes, we actually depend on each other. And part of those connections are either made or broken, through the words that we speak through the body language that we use, through whatever filters we already set in our brain that won’t let us hear what the other person is saying. So it should be a skill that we all develop.

We teach it in the holistic divorce Institute, we teach Conscious Communication, there is different types of communication styles. The conscious communication that we use is based on the nonviolent communication approach by Dr. Rosenberg, which is an amazing book and concept, but we brought it we kind of blended it with communication plus negotiation, because when we’re communicating, we’re very often trying to influence the other person to negotiate for what we actually want.

So we get very clear on what is our objectives with this conversation before we start talking, we set intentions especially because we’re talking about the process of negotiating a settlement for a divorce. It’s vital that those conversations don’t just happen, but that there is structure that you know, what is my intention going in? How am I going to use my verbal and nonverbal verbal communication to make sure that I get my partner to participate and collaborate instead of get defensive and trigger. So there is so many ways that you can approach this. But even if you just bring it down to be very aware that the words that you are saying may not be the same words that the other person is receiving,

Quianna Marie
yes, oh my gosh, I feel like we need to repeat that, like sometimes just the words, you’re saying, the person who you’re speaking to is interpreting it completely differently.

Olga Nadal
A completely different message. And a lot of it also comes with our body language, which can be so subtle, and so like, imperceptible to us. But the other person has seen this, like rolling of your eyes, the raising of your eyebrows, they jaw that clenches. And so the other person is like, mixing this like almost like a cocktail mix. They’re in their brain and go like, Oh, she’s actually saying this horrible thing to me, when in reality, you’re just pointing out like, Hey, you got something on your dress, you know what I mean? So it’s really important that we also keep seen and try and keep in our perception really acute to see what the other person is actually receiving. And you will see it as well in their body language in the words that they say to you.

That’s when you can readjust. And a lot of the techniques that we teach use mirroring, where you will actually say like, okay, is this what we’re saying? Is that what you’re saying? Are you saying this is what’s happening? Because like I said, you may have said something to me that hey, oh, that makes sure that you’re here at 10am. And I’m here like, oh, my gosh, she thinks that I’m always late, and why is she been? You can just reply. Okay, so just so you understand.

You just want me to be here at 10am on this. Yep. Okay. And of the drama. But isn’t it interesting that we go into conversations, like so casually, but some conversations are going to make or break friendships, relationships? business deal. So yeah, we need to pay extra careful attention and intention to every single one of our conversations. Yes, this

Quianna Marie
is such a beautiful reminder. And I think a lot of us to forget that the person you’re either in a relationship with or business with, or any type of confrontation with another human. We also come with so much baggage, right? Like, we come with our own filters, we come with our own our own, just like it doesn’t have to necessarily have to be insecurities, right? Like, these aren’t always bad things. But we come with a different meeting space with that person. And so I just love that we can chat about this openly to share that. Just because you have this conversation with someone doesn’t mean that we’re all seeing eye to eye because of past experiences. And so yeah, I just, I find that happens a lot.

Olga Nadal
And that’s a very important reminder that very often we forget when I work on the field of divorce. So these are people who used to love themselves, and now they can stand each other. So what happened there, you know, and very often we have this completely mistaken belief that love is all we need. No, we need to look at okay, where is the programming that this person comes with? What are their patterns? Where are those habits? can I cope with those are those agreeing with my own nervous system, because you may love your partner, to the moon and back.

If he has a way of speaking to you, that totally triggers and activates your nervous system to go into freeze fight or flight then sorry, no love in this world is going to save that. So yeah, being aware of okay, what is the other person bring into to this conversation and, and again, being super calm if you can in the middle of the storm and just try and remind them like, my husband and I we joke whenever we’re starting sleeping into those, okay, I’m actually like my mother, or his acting like is that we will actually call each other by our last name. I’ll be like, Oh, wait, am I talking to Ian? Or am I talking to Corsign?

This is like, Oh, you’re bringing your parents into here. And we do that. It’s like, I have an accent because for the first 23 years of my life, I was I spoke Spanish. So that’s always gonna be with me, no matter how many other 20 years I spent in America, that’s still gonna be with me. The same happens with our parents programming, schools culture. So we have to again, be aware and be very compassionate.

Quianna Marie
Yes. Oh my gosh, I’m loving all of this so far. So can you share with us one way or any things that comes to mind that we can actually put our friendship first when it comes to our partnerships?

Putting Friendship First In Your Partnerships

Olga Nadal
Oh, what a great question. Friendship first. A lot of times we kind of shift from friendship to relationship kind of communication, where suddenly there is a little bit I don’t want to say full on this respect. But we can have drop our etiquette with our partners. The other day, we’re playing pickleball with this other couple. And by the time they were done, we were like, Oh that that husband was a little bit something. And then I wonder, like, why were they married, we didn’t even know that.

We presumed that they were married because of the way that they were talking to each other.

I thought, how sad is that, that we sort of accept that, oh, when you’ve been with someone for a while, then again, that sort of respect and cherishing kind of falls behind. So let’s try and bring that back to the forefront. And again, when you are speaking to them be as respectful as you will be talking to a stranger or to a friend.

The other thing that I recommend so much is that you do try and find common Fabius themes to play with your partner, because then that’s where the friendship goes, you know, like, there will be enough conversations around the household, the children, the businesses, the mortgage, the bills, have some fun, as well, you know, play a sport, go to movies together have dinner, like, again, for the whole concept of courtship, to me is what I really like to keep in relationships. Keep on courting your partner, just because you got them just because the rain is in their hand. Yeah, keep on treating them like that the most special human and you’re so happy to see them.

Quianna Marie
Yes, I love that. And I think it’s so important to for all relationships, and not just your personal, not just your romantic or your partnership. But I mean, even just relationships with your parents, with your children with your best friends. Like you mentioned, you know, sometimes you you can get so close to someone and you almost kind of have a have a sense of disrespect towards each other, right.

I even know this too, with the relationship with my mom, like, I love her more than anything, and we are so close, but oh man, like I can be so mean to her sometimes. And, and it’s because I feel safe. And it’s because I feel loved and unconditionally love that no matter what I say like she’s not going anywhere. You know, like, she’s my mama. But I can see that too, with partnerships is, you know, kind of check yourself like how are you speaking to each other? How are you treating each other? And, and I’ll tell you, like, you know, not that I am like an expert.

I haven’t been married yet. But just with my own relationships, I noticed that when I actually do things out of love and respect, and just being sweet, and you know, gifting them with little random gifts from the store or just making them feel special. Like it just triggers the whole mood, like the whole energy of the house is different. Instead of that nitpicky, like that, like just friction.

Olga Nadal
Yeah, and you’re absolutely right. We do with our family members, it’s, again, it’s something that we have accepted. And I do get it, you know, with time and cohabitation, and you know, we get tired. So there will be moments where we will not be our absolute best. But let’s make sure that those are the exceptions, not the norm, you know, that when people cannot tell the difference between you talking to your partner, or you’re talking to a stranger, you know, what I mean?

They’re gonna notice a difference is because you’re being so sweet and caring, you know, not because you’ve been rough, like, ah, you know, just because we are family doesn’t give us a right to, you know, sometimes we feel like, well, but I have to tell them this. Yes, sure. You can tell us, you can tell us anything, but use the right words, you know, because we’re still having feelings, whether they come from our mother talking to us or our daughter talking to us, you know, like, let’s remember that.

Quianna Marie
Yes, absolutely. Well, I would love to kind of shift the conversation into a little bit more of the divorce topic, because I know you have such a big heart and your mission is to help with holistic divorces and, and really helping people manage and navigate some of the most traumatic moments of their life but also doing it from such a sign of peace and love and acceptance. So I would love to hear a little bit more about your story and like your mission to why this is your goal to help as many families with divorce.

Helping Families With Divorce

Olga Nadal
Oh, thank you. Yeah, it is. It is so my mission to change the paradigm of divorce because as everybody has noticed, we don’t do divorce right? We go to war we turn nasty and it’s been the way it has been because that’s how it was set up. When you go to divorce 50 years ago, you needed to have reasons to legally be able to separate and divorce we don’t have that anymore. Now you can have a no fault divorce, no questions asked.

You just go there and say listen, I don’t want this anymore, which I think is fantastic. Because then we can already remove all that blame and shame and you know, having to have done something horrible in order to leave a relationship. So that happen we can legally or morally Divorce. But somehow our society consciousness hasn’t caught up with a concept.

It’s trending, it’s changing, for sure. And we had the whole movement of conscious uncoupling. And now I’m creating, creating the movement of holistic divorce where we can do a type of divorce that instead of traumatizing you, it will empower you.

So one thing that I want to make crystal clear is I’m not talking about a kumbaya divorce, you know, I do understand this is a very painful, very stressful passage. So I’m never gonna say like, Oh, my God, we’re gonna have a blast with your divorce, you know, but I can say, we’re gonna have an experience where your emotions are taken into consideration. That’s what makes it a holistic divorce is we’re not just gonna deal with the logistics and the and the legalities, we’re gonna deal with the emotions first. Because when the emotions are high, the intellect is very low.

Then we sign a piece of paper that is going to dictate the rest of our life, at least financially. And we look back once we are emotionally sober, and go, like, how did I do this? That’s the part that I’m trying to avoid. I’m trying to avoid people signing agreements that are rigged read, I’m trying to stop the breaking up of families, because a divorce doesn’t mean the ending of a family, it means the ending of a partnership or relationship, but the family can remain. I’m also encouraging positive Negotiation Communication, away in which people can actually get to an agreement that I call a win win win, where your partner, yourself and your children win.

Again, all of this is possible, it’s just that you have to know how to do it. So that’s why we created the holistic divorce Institute where we train coaches that will navigate you through the process, because what happened to me was, when I was going through what I call the limbo of divorce, which was that after 13 years of a really happy marriage, I began to feel the the science of I think that we need to complete this marriage.

More and more people are getting to that point, by the way, where we are not leaving our entire lives, within one marriage, we’re having more than one monogamous relationship. And that can end in several marriages, we even joke in the divorce industry that your first marriage is your starter marriage is where you learn how to be in relationship, hopefully, will you learn how to communicate, and if you didn’t, then you get a chance to learn how to do that during the divorce process, especially if you work with a coach. And then on your second, there are so many marriages you want, that’s when you perfect it.

It’s fascinating to see how society is slowly changing towards that the introduction of coaches into the process is really assist in this. But we still have a long way to go to get to the place where when you tell someone, hey, I’m getting a divorce, instead of people being shocked and upset and like, oh my god, I’m so sorry, this is happening to you, they will actually get curious and say, Oh, that’s, that’s a really big transition in life. How are you doing? What do you need? How can I support you? We’re gonna get there, no questions about it. But until we get there, we need to support people through the process.

Quianna Marie
This is so beautiful. And I’m so grateful that we’re having this conversation. And one thing that I think really stuck out, and I feel like that little kid in school where I’m like, Oh, I gotta say something like, Oh, let you keep talking teacher, but I gotta I got a question. Like, I feel like I have that right now. Um, but I loved how you gracefully mentioned the complete, like, creating a marriage that is complete.

I just think that is such a beautiful way to express that it is an ending. And it is a transition. But the marriage is now complete, instead of broken and shattered and all of these really traumatic words and definitions to share something like that. And I just think that you do you define that perfectly.

Olga Nadal
But isn’t it fascinating that life is a consecutive change of beginnings and endings. It’s sort of like we go through stages, and we celebrate the initiation from your child that goes from kindergarten to schools, from school to university, from university, you get a job, we don’t have that whole, you’ll stay in that job for 40 years anymore. You go to one job, then you go to another job, you may even move to a different state. And we celebrate all of those stages because we understand that growth this person is going places is getting better with each sort of milestone.

Supporting With Love and Acceptance

When it comes to relationships or marriage is almost like you hear that at a dead end. This is it. You sign a piece of paper and you’re done. When in reality We are proving that that’s not how we want to live live, and especially now that longevity is so much longer than before, like, we used to die when we hit our 40s and 50s. So yeah, maybe what marriage is all that you had a chance to go from? And now people are living 80s 90s living the best life in their 60s 70s. So they’re feeling like, what am I doing? Why do I have to be with someone who I have outgrown?

This is one of the main reasons why marriages end again, let me set the record straight. Most marriages do not end because there’s been abuse because there’s been an affair, because there’s been some sort of confrontation, they end because people throw apart, people grow in different directions. And I often joke, some people grow in the direction of forward and some others go backwards. So why would you want to stay in a relationship with someone who is going backwards?

I think that we have the fortune, we have the privilege of living in an age where you’re allowed to say, Hey, I love you. And that’s why I want to leave you and be okay with that. And know that you’ll find another partner, your ex will find another partner, and you will have a second chance at love. How beautiful is that? Like, why? Why do we restrict ourselves to not doing that?

Quianna Marie
Yes, well, I love this, I love this perspective. And I love just kind of highlighting all of these different options, right? I feel like you really are giving anyone who is considering divorce who or who has experienced it, just giving them different options. And I would love to kind of transition to into entrepreneurship, because that is one thing that I see a lot of especially, and I’ll just say it like this is my own opinion. So please don’t come at me, but I do I see a lot of women, investing in education, investing in entrepreneurship, and maybe even having their own business and admin are doing this too.

I really want to be fair. But I do see that there may be a lot of fears with entrepreneurs, or maybe even stay at home moms that are terrified of the financial burden that divorce may bring to the future. So can we maybe talk about that, like what does that look like, and especially here on you know, on this podcast, and my listeners, a lot of us are big dreamers and hustlers and business owners. So if maybe divorce is on the table, what are some ways that we can kind of soften that blow and that fear of divorce with finances?

The Financial Fears Around Divorce

Olga Nadal
I want to validate that fear is very real, and and it is you’re gonna go into half of your assets. That’s what happened when, when we got the divorce. And I remember, a lot of people talking about you show you guys want to do this, because you know, it’s gonna dilute your we had created a financial empire. And it’s true, then you go two separate ways, which again, one of the reasons or the main reasons why a lot of wealthy people don’t get a divorce is because it’ll be too costly.

They just live separate lives. And you know, that works. But again, I want to emphasize the fact that if you are, if you’re thinking that you’re going to go through a divorce, getting your finances in order is vital. And by that I mean, know where the money is, know how much money it is, how many assets and liabilities you have. And again, we provide checklists, we coach brands through everything. Because what I didn’t realize when I first started in this field was that a lot of women especially stay at home, women had no clue what was happening with their finances.

That was that was my mistake, because I had always been very aware of the finances in my relationship. And I knew where everything was. But the truth is that in a lot of marriages, the financial responsibilities are completely separate. And the male may be bringing the money or managing it and the wife had no idea where any of that was.

The Fear of Money + Finances of Divorce

So I understand even the fear of that of I don’t even know how much money we have or where it is where are the stock options, the retirement accounts. So again, help is inviolable. And nobody teaches us this. Again, there is not a class on how to get a divorce and all the financial information that you need. So do yourself a favor and find someone who is going to help you with this. I find it just mind blowing that we’ll hire coaches for fitness, which in reality is just just do the apps for Nutricia.

Which is it better for you know, business coaching, all the all the types of coaching, but we are reluctant to hire a coach for the one transition that we have no idea what we’re doing. It’s a pile of paperwork, laws and legislation that I mean, I have a I have a master’s degree and when I had to fill out my own paperwork, I was like I need help. I can’t even understand this English is so confusing. So yes, find the help and get your finances in order. And then the other thing that I want to say is it even for those who don’t have an income, who feel like oh my god, my partner is not going to be fair. That’s where the legal system comes into place.

Again, with the proper help, you will not be left on food stamps, if you were a stay at home mom, and your partner was bringing the income, there will be a fair distribution of the assets. So again, some people are very confused thinking, Well, I don’t have an income here, because you were raising the children, you were staying at home, but you have rights towards that even their retirement accounts on the stock options. So again, just get informed, get it all planned out.

Even if you don’t have an income, we live in the golden age, especially for women, because of overseas, and at the very beginning of this conversation, you can get into the online world, where the the barrier for entry is so low, like you don’t even need to raise capital to start an online business. All you need is a laptop and the guts to go for it. The ceiling, the financial ceiling on online businesses is non existent. And you know it we are with people who make 678 figures. And yeah, like what are you selling?

Oh, digital courses? Okay. Yeah, there is no ceiling on that. So I say for for a lot of women that feel like, Oh, my God, I miss my chance. I shouldn’t do this, because I will never be financially independent. That’s not true. Do you have a huge opportunity right now to break into the online world? And really make a killing?

Quianna Marie
Yes. Well, this is so inspiring, because I do feel like that is and you know, I don’t know firsthand, personally going through a divorce. But I do feel like that, especially in this entrepreneur world, that people have that fear, right? Like they just think oh my gosh, my world is ending.

I feel like you are giving them so many options. And so, so much light, and love and respect and, and creating this space where they can feel heard and loved. So I would love for you, Olga, to share more about your programs and what exactly as you offer, because you clearly are an expert and relationships, and all of your experience with divorce and coaching through divorces, and all your holistic divorce stuff. So tell us more about your programs and how we can get into your world.

Holistic Divorce Programs

Olga Nadal
Yeah, my main program right now is through the holistic divorce Institute, we created a certification where we train people to become holistic divorce coaches, we do that in eight weeks is the most laser focused program out there. You it’s self taught in the sense that you get online modules. So every way every week, you’ll watch the videos. And then every two weeks, we’ll get on a zoom call in case you have any questions, we’ll do case studies, we’ll review the curriculum. And then after a week’s they take a test with us to make sure that they did learn all the process.

Then they become holistic divorce coaches. And I used to be a holistic divorce coach myself. But now, after the pandemic, that’s when I realized like, there is such a huge need now, because the pandemic was the death sentence for many of those marriages that were ready to be completed. And so I don’t take clients anymore. But whoever comes to the holistic divorce Institute, and wants coaching them, we just refer them to our students.

Our students, our graduates are out of this world, they have a huge heart, a lot of them have gone through divorce themselves. So they have this passion inside of themselves as well to be like, I want to help other people because I know how dark it can be and how I can make it lighter for them. Because that’s a huge difference. Because through divorce alone, it’s a very scary, traumatizing and very lonely experience.

Going through with a professional, our clients actually learn skills, they learn how to negotiate how to be able to stand up for themselves, how to set boundaries, how to read contracts, I think it’s it makes them better individual. So yeah, if anyone is interested, they can check us out at holistic divorce institute.com. And in there they can also and I can give you for the notes for the show notes. They can watch a three part miniseries, where it’s just three short videos where we highlight how our students are making income, income and an impact as a holistic divorce coach.

Quianna Marie
So beautiful. Well that’s definitely one of my passions, and especially with this podcast is helping small business owners creatives and dreamers find different options for either helping people making money building up an income and I just, you know because I remember being little and thinking,

Okay, I have like three options. I could be a teacher, I could be a doctor or a lawyer and or like my dad was a roofer. Right. So he was a small business owner, but like that’s all I saw. Like I really didn’t know that there were so many options. out here. So if someone is listening, and thinking, wow, you know, I really am trying to help people. And I really am trying to make a difference and make an impact for generations, who would be qualified to be a holistic divorce coach?

Who Is Qualified To Be A Divorce Coach?

Olga Nadal
in my opinion is whoever has that passion to help others, whoever is genuinely concerned about the state of the world and wants to change it and make it a better place. That to me is the only requirement. We had people who were already in the industry, we had lawyers, mediators, we had people who were coaches and that were like, Oh, I’m not getting any clients, I need to specialize.

But honestly, you don’t have it do you don’t need any previous experience, because we’ll teach you all the coaching skills and all the business skills half of the program is coaching half of the program is business mastery. So anyone who genuinely feels like, I want to have a side business, in which I help others go through the darkest time of their life, and I guide them into safety. If that’s in your heart, and come join our family.

Quianna Marie
Amazing. Oh, my goodness, I’m so grateful for you and our connection, and having so much fun at masterminds with you and the girls. Oh, my goodness. So one question I love to ask every guest is what key tip would you like to share with with someone today whether you know, an entrepreneur, small business owner, something you wish you knew sooner?

Key Tip From Olga

Olga Nadal
Hmm. Oh, I would say just don’t be afraid to try new things. Because that’s what entrepreneurship is, is you’ll just try one thing. And then it’ll be like, Oh, this didn’t work. Okay, I’m gonna try something else. Oh, that worked. I’m gonna repeat it. Just don’t be afraid to you know, we put so much emphasis in being embarrassed when we don’t do things, right. Just throw that out of the window and start trying new things. And and even if you feel like, well, entrepreneurship seems a little bit scary. Try a new sport.

Try to learn photography, try to go to a dance class, anything that takes you out of your comfort zone, because there’s so much growth in that and you’ll start releasing all these lame ideas of I gotta be perfect before I launch anything. And then starting a business online will feel like yeah, sure, why not? Let’s do it. So yeah, I will just say, get out of your comfort zone every day, just one inch, one inch, one inch.

Quianna Marie
Yes. I love that. And I love how you mentioned to like, just go do fun things. It doesn’t have to be starting a business doesn’t have to be filing for divorce today, it could simply be picking up a new recipe, it could be meeting a new front end at a different restaurant and stop going to the same coffee shop. Let’s go try something new. And I really think that will get those creative juices flowing and spark a ton of opportunities

Olga Nadal
and your courage, because courage is really just doing the scary things. So even if it’s I’m going to talk to a stranger. I’m gonna go to a coffee shop and compliment someone on their earrings and go for it. What’s the worst that can happen? But your body gets a little bit dysregulated and you get a little bit sweaty? Get used to that feeling? That’s all you need to do. Keep on practicing.

Quianna Marie
Yes. Oh, my goodness. Well, thank you so much for your time today, Olga. How can people find you because I know there’s going to be so many listening that want to follow you follow along with your journey. How can we be friends online?

Connecting With Olga

Olga Nadal
The best place is Instagram as always as well behind and my Instagram handle is all Canada, HDI for holistic divorce Institute. And then yeah, if you want to check out the certification is holistic divorce Institute calm. And I will give you the landing page for the three day mini course if you’re interested in making impact and income as a holistic divorce coach.

Quianna Marie
Absolutely. Well, those will all be linked in the show notes. And oh my gosh, oh, God, I had so much fun. Thank you.

Olga Nadal
Thank you so much for having me again. It’s always so lovely hanging with you.

Quianna Marie
Yes, Have a beautiful day. This is your sign to not only meet people outside of your industry, but also meet people with different life experiences as you after getting older, I’ve been able to heal some of my own past relationship wounds to help navigate a safe, happy and supportive relationship for my own future marriage. Your Olga is out there, baby.

She’s at your next breath work class, on the Pickleball court, dancing under the full moon or maybe even just one call away when you need support the most. Be sure to follow along and please share her connection with anyone you think would appreciate it. I’m so thankful you’re here and look forward to introducing you to more of my real life, friends and mentors.

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