Have you ever made a horrible mistake within your business? In my fifteen years as a wedding photographer, I have made plenty, like completely forgetting to make an engagement album and losing thousands of dollars on mini-sessions. In today’s episode, I’m sharing some of the biggest mistakes I’ve made and my advice to make sure you avoid them in your business. 

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Not Calling Myself A Professional (2:22)

Time Zone Mistakes For Zoom Calls (4:47)

Forgetting The Engagement Guest Book Album (6:22)

Not Communicating Until The Week Of The Wedding (13:33)

Forgetting To Share Images With Vendors (14:43)

Missing $1,800 Worth Of Payments (17:26)

Double Booking A Wedding And Family Portrait Session (20:09)

Wasting My Time With Emails And Communication (21:39)

How Honeybook Has Helped Me Prevent Future Mistakes (23:21)

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Over the last 15 years, I have experienced a ton of mistakes. And these mistakes range from tiny little mishaps or miscommunications to actually losing a lot of money, as well as some pretty dramatic and highly emotional moments. Now, the reason why I think it’s important to share these with you is obviously, so you can hear about them, learn from them and not repeat them. I, I secretly hope these never ever, ever, ever happened to you.

But we’ve been having a lot of fun on the podcast chatting all about these connection calls with real life influencers that are my real friends in the community and beyond. And as I’m sharing these conversations, I really want this podcast to be an open book for you. I want it to be a space for encouragement, a safe space to feel heard and understood. And with that, although I do share a lot of the highlights and a lot of really fun accomplishments and really fun stories.

I also want to share like, hey, look, this is a reality. And you are working with humans with real people with real emotions. And it’s not always easy. So I thought it would be a great idea to kind of break up some of these connection calls with some real life mistakes I’ve made as a photographer. Now, I love my list, as I mentioned before, so let’s keep it real. And let’s dive into these mistakes I’ve made to help you prevent them in the future.

Welcome to Quianna Marie weekly, a podcast for creatives who love to celebrate wins, big or small by dancing in the kitchen photographers who are excited to serve their clients and friends who are ready to chase really, really big dreams. You can find all of the resources mentioned in this episode at Kiana murray.com/podcast. Join me as I share weekly motivation, chat about growing pains, finding genuine connections and celebrating your wins through the lens of a photographer at heart.

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All right, welcome back, I am so pumped and so grateful you’re here, this will be a great opportunity to whip out your notebook or definitely reference the show notes for this one. Because these are mistakes that you absolutely don’t want to make in the future.

#1 Not Calling Myself A Professional

Number one, not calling myself a professional. Now I want to start kind of surface level here. But really, this is a deep rooted mistake that I made in the beginning that if I can go back in time, I would have just been born and had people call me Quianna Marie, that professional photographer, instead of waiting for these insecurities to creep through, and to not define myself as a professional. Because when I first started my business, I was working at Trader Joe’s and I was just a girl with a camera, who loved to take photos of families and events, and eventually weddings. But it just didn’t feel real. It didn’t feel right because I didn’t feel professional not to date myself.

I had a portfolio pieces where they were actually in binders with printed photos that were in those like plastic sleeves. That’s literally what I gave as reference photos or portfolio work for my first couple of brides. So that’s a long time ago, I also had galleries on CDs, you guys, I actually delivered CDs as like portfolio references like this is way back in the day. And even though that was the AVID save live latest technology, I was using it and I was promoting it, and I was excited to share it. But it still didn’t feel professional.

So what in my opinion, makes someone professional? I believe someone who is a professional in their trade is someone that invests in education is someone that truly is prideful about their work always does their best they can make mistakes. And so I want to make sure that there’s like, you know, a little blanket statement about that it’s absolutely okay to make mistakes. But to wholeheartedly want to fix them, improve them and make some changes for next time. Being a professional is is very prideful.

And so I think that’s really important, but it also is an embodiment. When you have that confidence that you are the best person for the job when you know that your services and your offers are going to help make an impact make someone’s day life or experience just so much sweeter. That’s where I find that professionalism just shines. So if I can go back in time, definitely the mistake I made was not calling myself a professional.

I want you to stick around for the end of the episode because I’m actually going to debunk these and help you prevent these in the future as well. So stick around for that.

#2 Time Zone Mistakes

Number two time zone mistakes for zoom calls. Y’all I am the worst when it comes time zones like literally if I was ever on Jeopardy, or some type of quiz game I would love Like an idiot online, if I couldn’t even figure out timezones like, I’m sorry, that’s just the way I am. Maybe it’s just my brain and this block and maybe I should make that a challenge for myself to try to figure it out. But I hate timezones.

I have missed a couple of really important zoom calls with client meetings with podcast interviews. This was before I started my podcast. Many of those have been prevented, thanks to honey book, and we’ll get into that later. But yeah, I timezones are just the worst. And I don’t want that to happen to you. Right. So I can’t tell you how many times I’m googling what time is it an Arizona is Arizona and California on the same time is Arizona mountain time? What time is it on the East Coast? And it’s so confusing, because I’m the worst at geography.

So someone could tell me what state they’re in. And I couldn’t even tell you if that was Central Time or East Coast time. Are those even the same? I don’t know. It’s very confusing. But I want to encourage you that if you have a glitch like this, whether it is some form of dyslexia, or maybe you are confused with timezones or something like that, it’s okay. I’m still in business, I still make a living doing what I love. And I just want to support you and empower you that if you were making these little mistakes, it’s okay.

People are human. But just know that they can be preventable, thankfully, to HoneyBook. Okay, so we’ll keep chatting, I’m definitely gonna circle back to honey book and how it has changed my life.

#3 I Totally Forgot To Make An Engagement Guest Book While In Mexico

But let’s roll into number three, for getting the engagement album. Okay, let me back up here, I need to tell you a story. I should have said this first.

Basically, to paint the picture. I was in Mexico. At the time, I was just kind of, I would say it was a couple of years into my business. And the couple that had hired me to go out, they had paid for all of my travel, they paid for all of my accommodations. And they also paid for a portion of their collections. So I was just at the tipping point where I wasn’t quite including the collection fee, all of travel like the whole shebang, right, because sidenote, commercial break full transparency, when I first started my international weddings, whether I was going to Mexico or anywhere else in the world, I was only charging travel fees. So I used to say, Hey, as long as you didn’t get me here, I will cover that collection fee. Don’t even worry about that.

At the time, I think I was only charging, maybe $3,500 for wedding coverage. But I would include so much okay, but anyway, I digress, I was just kind of giving you an update. Because what I want to share is I was actually in the room with one of my past brides, who happened to be the maid of honor for that wedding that we were in Mexico for. And I was sharing a room with her.

So this is just full transparency again, like this is the grit, this is the grind. I did not just have people booked me at my full package price, and then also pay for all my accommodations at first. Now they do but when I first started, they didn’t. So I want to make that crystal clear. So anyway, now it makes sense why I was in the room with the maid of honor.

We were sharing your room. Yeah, and so the bride comes in. And she asked me it was just after rehearsal dinner, we’re all like sun kissed from laying out by the pool. We just enjoyed a really delicious rehearsal dinner the night before.

So it was Friday evening and the bride looks to me she’s in the room hanging out with us ready to go up, you know, up to her room for the evening. And she looks at me and says, Oh, yeah, he key. Do you have the engagement book for the guest book? I would love to grab that now. So I can you know get it set up for tomorrow like put it with all the things so doesn’t get forgotten. I cannot even express how my heart just think I didn’t person to tears. I didn’t like have this like crazy emotional traumatic, like, I lose, I didn’t think so like on the outside.

But I was literally shaking and thinking, Oh my God, I don’t have it. And let’s be clear, I didn’t forget it. Okay, like it wasn’t like it was sitting on my messy desk at home. And it didn’t get into my suitcase to travel to Mexico with us. But I did not even create. I did not put it together. I did not purchase I did not ship I didn’t I did not make her engagement album. And I’m sorry if you’re just following along.

But basically what I’m saying is I had created the plan was was to create a guestbook with their engagement photos, right. So in case you didn’t catch that, that’s all it was. I was just going to take about 20 of their engagement photos, throw it into a guestbook, and I actually included some sharpies like that was the plan. But it was an email. It was an email thread months ago. And I forgot, I just made one of the biggest mistakes ever.

I was panicking because I had nothing to show for it. Right. So I want to kind of resurrect to this moment and how I went above and beyond to make sure that this couple felt loved and appreciated even though I made this horrible mistake.

Well, let me backtrack and tell you the story because that’s just kind of juicy. So I told her the bride that night. I said oh my gosh. So she left the room. I said, Oh, yeah, let me grab it. I’ll find it. She was in a hurry to leave. And I looked at the maid of honor who was one of my past brides and close friends. And I told her, Jessica, I don’t have it. i And she’s like, What do you mean? No. And there was like not a Quianna thing to like, forget something like that.

Right? And I told her, No, I don’t have it. And she’s like, Okay, well, you should probably tell her that now. So she doesn’t like up on her wedding day and like, not realize I’m like, okay, okay. So I ran out the door, chase down the bride, and I apologized.

And I said, I’m so sorry, I had to face my fear. I had to fear this rejection. I just felt horrible. Because as a wedding photographer, you know, or as any type of business owner, your job is to make everybody’s life easier, better, more beautiful, make people feel confident, make people feel loved. And the fact that I just forgot something, I was just like, oh, and I know, this may not seem like a big deal now, like in hindsight, but like, to me to that bride, it just felt like, oh, it was just like the worst.

So the next day, I told her, I said, don’t worry about it, I’m gonna make it up for you, you know, I have an idea. And she was like, okay, because, you know, there were some things happening with traveling. And of course, destination weddings, and especially international weddings, you know, things can come up and can be a little less, you know, it’s not doesn’t always go as planned.

So the next day, I took it upon myself to go through. This was during the cocktail hour, and then also during kind of reception and dancing. And I went up to every single wedding guest. And I say wedding guests, but really went up to different families. I went up to all the moms, I went up to everybody I could find, and I asked them to please share a note that I literally had my iPad. I had everybody write out a little note to the couple.

Right? It was just like their form of the guest book is basically what I was doing. And because this couple did not purchase an album after their wedding, and they had just done the package, they had just gotten me to Mexico.

They had paid for the engagement guestbook, but they did not pay for like a full fledge luxury heirloom album is what I call them. I gifted that to them.

So I went through all of like what everybody said. And I created an album for them with photos of the couple because this was also an intimate wedding. Right? I think there were maybe 35 guests. at their wedding. We were all in Mexico. I went through and I because I remember them because I’m psycho. And I just kind of put a little like thumbnail photo next to the couple or the family that wrote that response or wrote that little love note to them. And that’s what I gifted them.

So I like resurrected the the mistake by offering them this Allah really was actually like a fourth time. So dollar album, not at cost to me, but would it have cost to them to do that? And I felt good about it. Like I felt like, whoa, okay, I took this mistake. And I tried to make it as best as I could.

I could not fix anything in that moment. But how can I make this up to this beautiful bride. And she still referred me, I was still able to book, multiple weddings from that wedding and everything went out smoothly. But it was just so scary. So that’s a mistake that I will not make, I will not depend on all of my Gmail emails to get lost in the mix. Which is another reason why I love honey book for this exact reason.

And we’ll get into that later.

#4 Waiting Until The Week Of A Wedding To Chat with My Couple

Whew, that was a long number three, let’s get into number four. Not talking or communicating with one of my couples until the week of their wedding. Literally, I had one of my brides reach out the Monday before her wedding and ask, Hey, Qui looking forward to seeing you this Saturday. Is there anything I should prepare for, for my like getting ready box and stuff like that.

Now this bride has, we’re friends, okay. And she has seen my work before. She’s actually been in multiple weddings that I have photographed before. So she’s very familiar with the process. But I completely dropped the ball in not communicating with her and sharing all the updates setting up my questionnaire, I had nothing.

I went literally about nine months without a peep from me, this poor girl, the only way that she knew I was alive was because I was posted on Instagram and posted on Facebook. And that once again was a huge mistake because I missed out on creating so many touchpoints and so many ways to offer education and help that was just left in the dust. So this is a huge mistake that I hope you will never make I hope you stay consistent and connected with your clients.

#5 Forgetting To Share Images with Vendors

Number five, forgetting to share the images with vendors.

Now this is not one particular moment. This actually happened a handful of times and this is a huge missed opportunity and big fat mistake as photographers to make when it comes to be We’ve seen referrals, creating genuine friendships with vendors. And honestly just being a local favorite, right. So there were a couple of weddings where I had vendors reach out to me six months later, if not a year later asking for access to the gallery. Now I create a vendor gallery.

So I’m not sending all of the wedding photos with, with family and all those intimate details, right, like, I just don’t think those, like those don’t belong online, or at least at the will and access to everybody. But I do love sharing as many vendor details and decor details and venue details as possible. But yeah, like missing the opportunity to send the professionally curated images to vendors is a huge mistake. They’re excited to see your images. And here’s the thing there, there’s too, like they feel just as entitled to your work. And some people have different opinions about that. But I think they’re right, I think that they have access to those images, because it’s their work at showcasing them as well.

So that’s why I love going above and beyond is sharing my images, sharing the gallery sharing the blog posts, and of course, Insta Stories and behind the scenes with my vendors. They actually have an opportunity to share them to be excited about them. And literally market your business for capital F capital R capital E free. Like literally you guys.

Like if you’re missing out on this opportunity. Oh my gosh, now is the time to share with vendors. And I even this is like me being always giving unsolicited advice, I even would suggest that you reach out to them either at the end of the year, or after a certain time when you have worked with a particular either a venue or a vendor.

For example I’m trying to get at how cool would it be, if at the end of a year, you send one venue that you love, it’s a local venue, you’d be happy to shoot there again, and you send them the Four Weddings all in one email, all in one link that you photograph that year. Or it could be more, right, maybe you did 17 weddings that year. Or maybe you just did two or three.

Having all of their weddings that you shot at that one venue or having a favorite makeup artists that you shot a few weddings together, having them all in one location will be huge. So don’t make that mistake again, by not sharing them with vendors, they’re going to be so grateful and be so happy to share.

#6 Lost Over $1,800 On Mini Sessions

Number six, okay, this is a doozy. And it really really broke my heart. But I actually missed over $1,800 worth of payments for one mini session weekend. So here’s how this went down, which was a huge mistake. Basically, I had charged only 50% to book.

So here’s what happens. As my mini session prices started to increase. I didn’t want just like one flat fee, I didn’t want my clients to pay in full because things do happen. You know, last minute schedule changes. Or sometimes these are booked out so far in advance, and they sell out so far in advance that sometimes things come up. And I just I didn’t want to hold that kind of money and not be able to spend it until a certain time just in case anything had to be cancelled or switched around.

Typically, especially with many sessions. If a mom has a scheduling conflict, I usually just refund them I know. But once again, there’s gonna be haters out there, there’s gonna be people that disagree with that.

But it’s just how I roll if you don’t show for many session and getting your money back. And honestly, it’s because I booked things back. So back to back that if someone does have to cancel or reschedule, it just gives me a little water break or pee break. But that’s beside the point.

So here’s how this happened. I only sent out invoices for 50%. Then I never sent out the following 50% Either the day of or the week of the shoot. And the only way that I knew this was because one of the moms reached out and said, Hey, I don’t think I paid you I think I owe you more money. I’m like, oh, no, no, you’re good. You’re good. I’m thinking it’s done. And she was right.

Not only was she right, but I actually had about a dozen couples or families that owed me about $250. And I just honestly, this is once another bad mistake. Please don’t come at me. But I just let it slide. So I actually I asked that mom like Oh, thank you for letting me know. Yes, please. And here’s the $250 that you owe me like Thank you. I appreciate you so much.

Oh, and then I did not reach out to the other couples because it had been a year past sentence that had happened. So I just didn’t think it was right to go back and be like I made a mistake. I there’s just it didn’t make sense to me to go back and charges families especially because they were just gearing up to bug me again. So that was a huge fat mistake. I really hope never happens to you again. But it’s possible. So we just have to be extra careful with our billing and how exactly we’re doing that.

#7 Double Booking A Wedding and Family Portrait Shoot

Number seven, the big fat mistake that I’ve made was actually double booking a wedding. Now, let me be clear, this was not two weddings that I double booked. I had booked a wedding and a family portrait shoot on the same day. Now, this the reason why this was so stressful, because I’m sure you’re listening and thinking, well just reschedule the family, no big deal.

Well, this was a time of year, like in November, near Thanksgiving, when the family had some college students and some kids still in high school. And this was going to be the only time for quite some time that everyone was in the same place at the same time. And if you know, as children get older, and families expand and move away, like it can be really hard to get us all on the same room, let alone feeling dressed up feeling polished and ready for photos.

So this was a huge, huge moment for me where I’m like, Oh, my God, how do I let this slip, I booked this session way far in advance. And it just didn’t happen just didn’t cross my mind that it was booked at the same exact time, the same exact day. So luckily, I had an associate shooter, she was a friend of mine, she was able to photograph that session and all is well. In fact that family has rebooked with me again in the future.

And she understood. But that was a hard moment for me because I don’t like making mistakes like that. I don’t like being in predicaments where I have to choose or have to let anybody down. And so that, that was so sucky.

#8 Waisting Time With Emails and Communication With Clients

Number eight, another big fat mistake I’ve made over the years is wasting, wasting so much of my time with emails and communication, of me sending the same stuff me answering the same questions. And yes, I had canned emails through Gmail, which just means they’re like little quick template emails that I can send out and then adjust a couple of details.

I just wasted so much of my time. And I really, really want to help you feel set up for success where you don’t have to waste all that time. Okay, because our time is valuable. Our time is precious. And I believe actually, I know there are apps out there, there are tools out there. And there’s a lot of pre work that you can do up front. So you could actually create these resources for your couples and answer their questions before they even know what to ask or they even come at you right because someone that feels well loved and taken care of, and has all their questions answered, is going to think so highly of you and have raving reviews and really truly love their experience with you. But it really does start with that communication.

Okay, so now is the fun part. Now that I’ve shared with you some really juicy mistakes, you may be thinking, Alright, they weren’t that bad. I thought you like needle, drop your camera in the water. I thought you lit something on fire. Actually, now that I say that I’ve lit my hair on fire before at a wedding. I was backing up into a table and my long brown hair kind of got singed, all of a sudden I smell something smoking, nothing went into flames. But I definitely burned the bottom tips of my hair. But that’s pretty much the extent of the craziness.

THANK YOU HONEYBOOK

So now I want to kind of share some action items. I’m actually going to go through this list again really quickly. But this time share how HoneyBook which is my CRM has helped prevent these in the future. So I’ve done these ones, they will never happen again, I’m knocking on wood, I don’t want that to ever happen. I’m trying to be as proactive as possible.

But HoneyBook is a CRM, which is a client relations, relationship manager. Basically it’s just a hub where I keep all of my contracts, I keep all of my invoices I keep all of my emails questionnaires and timeline stuff all of my calendars and just basically my entire business is ran through honey book. Now I do have other apps and other programs that I use but honey book is the bread and butter the meat and potatoes of what keeps me in business without looking like a crazy person. Okay, so number one, I want to go back through this. I’m not calling myself a professional. As soon as I invested in honey book and I started using honey book for my contracts and my invoices.

I elevated myself literally to a professional overnight. Because what was happening is I would and this is going to date myself again I actually used to send out contracts in envelopes and manila folders with those little like metal things that cut yourself if you’re not paying attention, those little tabs. I used to send those out and I would actually send two documents where I would have a couple sign both so then they could keep one and then I would already have the postage because I tried to be very proactive. I’ve already had the postage paid for so they just have to mail that back.

That’s how old I am. Okay. So we don’t do that anymore. Through HoneyBook, I just elevated my experience. I mean, I used to, I used to trade sessions for shark tickets, which was our local hockey team. I used to do it for cash and Starbucks card or even babysitting trades I would do. And you know, it just it just really elevated my business once I invested in honey book, and people could pay online, you know, credit cards, where an online payments were secured, and were an option to pay, and it just elevated me overnight. Alright, let’s go back to number two, which are the time zone mistakes.

I’m so thankful for honey book, because literally, that’s not an issue anymore. So anytime that somebody signs up for a zoom call, or has any type of booked appointment, honey book has the brains and the algorithm and the calculations to figure out where in the world they are, and we match up. So I never have to worry about that. I have not missed a zoom call once sense invested in HoneyBook, or any type of timezone a related thing, because they keep track of that. So definitely, definitely consider a CRM for those types of things. So yeah, there’s no room for that, like human error, or my dyslexia, which comes out a lot.

All right, and then going back to Mexico for number three, with the engagement album being forgotten. And or like the sign in book, totally, totally forgotten. It was in a Gmail thread of emails, and six months later, I forgot to order it, it was just a nightmare. Honey book will prevent that, because you can have all of your all of your price sheet figured out, you can have tons of information on there reminders, you can create notes for yourself, it’s just all in one space.

Nothing gets left behind. Right. In the future, when this happens. Obviously, they would click to make sure that it’s an add on or it’s an option. And then through their invoice, and specifically their contract, I can see what their offers are, what is included in their package, and it’s just in one glance. So I would make a note for myself to make sure what are my deliverables what’s expected from me? And can this be done now in the speed on the week of their wedding and like you get what I’m saying like, those don’t fall through the cracks.

So thank you, HoneyBook for saving me for future events like this from happening. Number four, not talking or communicating with one of my couples until the week of their wedding. So let’s backtrack to literally ghosting my clients, my dream clients for literally nine months after they have booked me we done their engagement session. And then I said, Okay, see you next year, literally I will, you know, it took so long for me to to connect with them.

HoneyBook has incredible automations they have email options, where you can already just do the forefront work to fill in these little bubbles fill in his questionnaires, you can time things out. So instead of going through and missing things, you’re all ready, you already have a funnel already delivered for your couples so they can look forward to it and they feel super taken care of.

Once again, nothing gets through the cracks. And everybody has a very just incredible experience across the board, you’re not treating one couple one way you’re not forgetting a client gift over here, you’re not forgetting a sweet love note or I call it you know, thank you note or even you know, a mailed card, you’re not forgetting those. So thank you honey book for doing that. And then number five, forgetting to share the images with vendors. So this goes back into the workflow.

Okay, thank you to HoneyBook for allowing me to have all this organized and just kind of create a checklist. So after the wedding, I know this needs to be done two weeks out, this is done right because as soon as you send that link to their gallery, you’re not done sister, like there’s still things to do to create an impact and create an experience that makes your value so much more valuable. And then of course number six, when I miss out on all of that money from those many sessions, that’ll never happen again, because all of my payment processing goes through HoneyBook.

They’ll have multiple options for payment, I can create payment plans. And this is great because then I don’t have to ask my clients for this. I’m not reaching out to them and not reminding them well.

I take that back thanks to honey book, I can remind them but it’s already triggered to do that for me. So I don’t have to manually go in the week of a mini sessions. I’m typically traveling for many sessions because I do a lot about I do a lot back home and in Northern California and the Bay Area and so like there’s just so much going on that week that I also don’t want to remind them oh by the way, pay me okay, like that’s already taken care of. And nothing once again, it’s kind of filtered through the cracks. Number seven double booking.

Thank you HoneyBook for never ever, ever, ever letting that happen to me again. Okay, so typically when I go in to either start a new project to add a new client or to create a new invoice or anything like that at all, anytime I add a date in In honey book will actually pop up a reminder and say, Oh, by the way, you already have an obligation for that day or your you know, double booking like it’s like a little notification that says, Oops, check this out before you continue. Now, there are some things that I’m like, Yes, I know, right?

Like there could be already either a podcast session that morning, but I’m photographing a brand and shoot that evening, that’s fine, I can override that easily. Like I’m not a lot. It’s not that I’m not allowed to continue booking, it’s just a little reminder. And I love this, because it’s just, it’s just prevents this type of heart ache from happening. And number eight, no more wasting my time with emails and communication. So this goes back to staying connected with your couples staying connected with your clients, you’re going to want a system that doesn’t fail you that keeps you top of mind, that adds so much value and credibility to your business. So if you are interested in learning more about honey book, and how it can totally revolutionize your life, I have a couple of episodes for you. One of my favorites is six ways that HoneyBook helped me reach six figures, I’m talking to over $100,000 In my business, pure profits.

That to me, especially when I first started was a big deal. It was a big milestone. Now it’s not everything. I know a lot of various successful photographers that are making triple that amount or even only $50,000 a year, it doesn’t matter. It’s whatever you find successful. I want to add that little reminder in there. But yes, so if you are interested in trying HoneyBook, I have a link for you.

Check it out in the show notes, check it out on my website as well. I would just highly encourage you to check it out, poke around, they have incredible resources. And our girl Natalie Frank, who is one of the cofounders of rising tide society, she has just started a whole new podcast called the independent podcast and independent business podcast and I’m obsessed with it. It is so informational, and educational. It’s something that you want to be connected with.

I’ll definitely link that in the show notes as well. So thank you to my HoneyBook family, I cannot rave about you enough. It comes with an incredible community, it comes with tons of support. And this is definitely the type of platform that you’re going to want to be a part of to see the growth. Not every single one of these CRMs are gonna be perfect. There are tons of options out there. HoneyBook has just been what’s worked for me, and what I stand by and what I love to be a part of.

So if you’d like more information on that, please send me a DM I would love to chat with you about how it worked for my business. How maybe it will be a good fit for you or maybe not. I’d love to chat with you about that. So thanks for listening. I really hope that you find these mistakes helpful and encouraging to know that hey, I’ve done it. We’ve all been there.

We’re not perfect, but we’re human. And as long as we come from that space of serving and loving will be golden. So hope you have a good day babe. Keep on dancing. Hey, love you. Bye. That’s a wrap on another episode of Kiana Murray weekly. Thank you so much for your listenership and support. You can find the resources and show notes for this episode and more at QuiannaMarie.com/podcast. I’d be honored if you’d show your support by leaving a review and rating on your favorite podcast app. Until next time, keep on dancing.